Talk:Xsian

I wonder: for the purposes of this wiki, should we really be describing certain story elements according to their real-world equivalents? It kinda strikes me as an OOC aside in this entry, and if you remove the stuff about "Korean, Japanese," etc., I think people would still get the idea from the story elements you've listed below. Just a thought. Because the wiki must stay PURE!!! --Nick 08:22, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

"Because the wiki must stay PURE!!!" qft --Scen 08:26, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

• You could put it in a Meta section at the bottom. --Xstryker 12:39, 7 August 2006 (CDT)
  • Because the wiki must stay USEFUL!!! --Xstryker 12:40, 7 August 2006 (CDT)
• I like that idea, the Meta section at the bottom. Travis? --Nick 13:22, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

• • • Okay, I really don't like the meta in a story article. I'm going to extricate the OOC references. The wiki can be useful without breaking character. --Scen 17:59, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
      • So what you're saying is Bekkler actually does like poopies, in character? Terrorfying!! --JD 18:04, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

In all seriousness I don't really think that the references to korean and japanese really fit, either. Of course, it's Travis' article. So while I'd rather those references be pulled altogether (FOR THE GOOD OF THE WIKI) I think it's up to him. Unless we all can get together and decide what the "rules" are regarding references like that. --JD 18:10, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

WOW THIS MUST BE AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT I CANT STOP POSTING ABOUT IT. I think this could use some straightening up: "but we tend to play around whoever we want" because I don't really know what it means. And since I totally read at a third grade level I probably know what I'm talking about. No shit, srsly. --JD 18:12, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

... wtf --Scen 18:15, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

Okay. Here's my two cents on OOC references in serious Wiki articles: Don't use them.

Yes, it's easy to point at the Bekkler redirect-hoe-down and call me a hypocrite -- but in my defense it was really funny (shit, i still can't stop laughing -- I LIKE POOPIES), and also it's BEKKLER. Playing around with the Wiki media (without breaking anything) seemed to fit Bekkler, and so that's what I did.

But in terms of this discussion, it's apples vs. oranges. And the oranges -- I think we all know -- always win. Why? Because they're fucking cheaters. Goddamn oranges.

In terms of the Xsian profile, and others like it, I personally think that it's not exactly putting our best face forward to be satisfied with leaving references like that in a wiki article. It would be like leaving Gate's article as "Chrono Trigger," with no explanation or context. If that's what we're going to start doing, why bother with the Wiki?

I happen to suspect that when Travis put up the Xsian article with real-world references to China and Japan, it was as a placeholder. (granted, I'm not Travis so I can't say, but that's my hunch) And we have a lot of placeholders up now because we've really just barely scratched the surface of filling up this wiki with helpful and pertinent information. So, as a placeholder this article was fine, but I raised an eyebrow a little bit when I noticed that the meta references were no just holding places -- they were picking out drapes, bringing in boxes filled with their clothes and shit, and inviting their friends over for a summer bbq.

So, I added some content that tries to put this thing we call "Xsian" into something resembling an in-story context. If it's wrong, and Travis says it's wrong, I'll be fine with going back to using a placeholder. But as long as we're talking about what the rules should be regarding OOC in a permanent Wiki article like this... let's keep Meta in the Meta portal. ... hey, wasn't somebody supposed to clean up all the portals?... ohh... ... that was my job!! --Scen 18:26, 14 August 2006 (CDT)