Talk:Kupop Spinoffs

I thought I'd make a page for this so we could get off the great war discussion page. Now, should the dicsussion itself take place here on this discussion page? Or on the kupop board itself?

Thoughts, please.

Also note that the spinoff itself was "tabled" during the powwow last night. However, not everyone (Aurora) was even around for the powwow. So I don't see the harm in continuing the discussion. --JD 16:33, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

I should clarify some of my thoughts on the timeframe for Legends. I was planning originally on writing during the time of Belgememnon in Mana, about 1400 years ago, but I also thought that it would not necessarily be 1400 years in the past throughout the Web. I sort of felt that each writer would have the option of 'cherry picking' a part of the ancient past in their dimension that they would be most interested in writing. So, Mana circa 1400 years ago might end up connecting with Esper circa 4000 years ago, or whatever we feel like.--Celiose 17:24, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

Since this started with the Great War thought, I want to talk a little bit about that. (Even though most of our energies should be focused on Proper).

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of segmenting it into 'parts' allowing us to focus on certain periods of the war. This allows us the flexibility of visiting times we want to do in different parts of the war, while still living large tracts of the war open to future development. (As such a large part of the Kupopolis mythos, leaving a backdoor in the Great War is a good idea.) Parts we might want to do:

• The last years of the war. This has the advantage of featuring the most well-known characters of the war prominently, and has the closest links to Proper. The downside is that a lot of the major battles, campaigns, etc. are somewhat laid out already.
• The beginning of the war. First of all, we would get to see Salynae collect the runes, murder the other apprentices, the entrance of the Dark Gods into the world, and the launching of a web-wide war including the Dark Dragons and Gannon. This period of the war also allows for more flexibility; we can fit almost anything in here because we have thirty more years of war to make it fit with the continuity. Also allows for a more fantasy-feel setting (see notes on technology below).
• There's a period in the middle of the war around 14 WR where there are two major battles, in Albrooker Plain and North Viper, that might be interesting to visit. It'd be kind of fun to see the forces of Light and Good start to gain the upper hand, gather a bunch of forces, and then get the fucking shit beat out of them at North Viper.

Dimensions not in the Great War continuity. This represents a problem I think for writers whose major story assets don't appear in the war. I did want to say that it was pretty common for people from certain dimensions to show up while the dimensions themselves remained unknown. This makes a certain degree of sense; there's no Web-spanning authority in GACA yet, and if you're a nation that stumbles onto a Web where a huge-ass war is going on you'd probably want to have a low profile.

I do want to talk a little bit about technology, as the Great War is sort-of infamous for 'massive leaps in technology'. The real-world explanation for this is that Aurora was basically writing in a fantasy milieu and I was more interested in having more modern technology in the story. Also, FF6 had just been released, and even in the game (which was of course very important source material to us at the time) steam technology was common and magitek armor existed. Personally, my thoughts on the subject (reflected in my wiki article and more modern posts touching on the Great War such as Man Who Would Be King) is that the more technologicall advanced nations of the Web had an 18th or 19th century level of technology for much of the war slowly morphing to World War II level by the last part of the war. Since there was no GACA and the web was at war there was not as much trade going on between the dimensions and so I also think that variation in technology was much more extreme in the Great War. (Dragon was far behind the other dimensions technologically for the most part.) Still, the Great War allows for a more fantasy or even steampunk setting than a lot of what we have in Proper. (Legends is likely to be a full-on fantasy setting; Neo II, like Neo, more sci-fi). --Celiose 18:35, 8 September 2006 (CDT)

• Hee hee. The real reason I'm all over this idea. :P (Granted, I'm more willing to do urban/higher-tech fantasy after FF7 gave me a gorgeous goth boy with a gun opened my mind to the possibilities, but you'll still never see me posting in the Robotics Tournament) It would also give me the excuse to add in a dimension that got wiped out and whose scattered survivors...argh, I'm having a Hagrid moment here, sorry. Suffice it to say that I would be Very Enthused about revisiting the Great War for a number of reasons. My only concern is that I've got two plots going in Proper at the moment, one of which is languishing entirely (*prods Matt*) and the other I'm just starting to get to the point with. --Aurora 23:39, 8 September 2006 (CDT)