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*No, I'm comparing the government to Russia under Josef Stalin. People talk about communism as if all communist governments are the same or that the Soviet Union defines what communism is. The Soviet Union under Stalin was kind of a hybrid of communism and fascism. In some ways, fascism is more a style of government than a type of government - carry any government to its militaristic, violent, jingoistic extreme, and you have fascism. The FTSR is more like the Soviet Union under Gorbechev, where the KGB is still following you around, but the government isn't slaughtering its own people. I have a post planned that sort of clarifies this a bit, if I get around to it. Basically, the idea is that the Viper District has a centrally planned economy that is focused on feeding the Viperese war machine rather than Viperese workers - it's mechanistic communism without any of its goals or principles other than glorification of the state. --[[User:Xstryker|Xstryker]] 08:33, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
 
*No, I'm comparing the government to Russia under Josef Stalin. People talk about communism as if all communist governments are the same or that the Soviet Union defines what communism is. The Soviet Union under Stalin was kind of a hybrid of communism and fascism. In some ways, fascism is more a style of government than a type of government - carry any government to its militaristic, violent, jingoistic extreme, and you have fascism. The FTSR is more like the Soviet Union under Gorbechev, where the KGB is still following you around, but the government isn't slaughtering its own people. I have a post planned that sort of clarifies this a bit, if I get around to it. Basically, the idea is that the Viper District has a centrally planned economy that is focused on feeding the Viperese war machine rather than Viperese workers - it's mechanistic communism without any of its goals or principles other than glorification of the state. --[[User:Xstryker|Xstryker]] 08:33, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
 
**So would someone within the Kupop universe call the Viperese brand of communism "Stalinist"? --[[User:Scen|Scen]] 13:51, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
 
**So would someone within the Kupop universe call the Viperese brand of communism "Stalinist"? --[[User:Scen|Scen]] 13:51, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
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***No, they wouldn't. That's why I wrote the article myself for real people to read, rather than having beloved Ticonderan historian Allaine Pretenderpants write it (with gusto!) for all the citizens of faraway Pretendia to read. But shhh, don't tell our characters, it would be like finding out Santa Claus is a big red lie. --[[User:Xstryker|Xstryker]] 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)
 
**(I think his complaint is that "stalinist" is a "meta" term, like Mike comparing splatdonalds to mcdonalds in its entry. Or maybe I'm way off base. --[[User:JD|JD]] 15:09, 12 October 2006 (CDT))
 
**(I think his complaint is that "stalinist" is a "meta" term, like Mike comparing splatdonalds to mcdonalds in its entry. Or maybe I'm way off base. --[[User:JD|JD]] 15:09, 12 October 2006 (CDT))
  
 
:Is the x missile related to the x stryker --[[User:JD|JD]] 13:10, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
 
:Is the x missile related to the x stryker --[[User:JD|JD]] 13:10, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
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*Or as I call it, the X Em-Aye-Double-Sizzle. --[[User:Xstryker|Xstryker]] 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)
 
::ive been to rock lobster i like there crablegs --[[User:Scen|Scen]] 13:24, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
 
::ive been to rock lobster i like there crablegs --[[User:Scen|Scen]] 13:24, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
 
:::ok ill try them sometimes
 
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*Assuming you've read the Belgariad already, yes, the Mallorean is pretty good (if you didn't like the Belgariad, the Mallorean is no different). I also like his other series, the Elenium and Tamuli. Everything he's written since is really terrible. --[[User:Xstryker|Xstryker]] 08:19, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
 
*Assuming you've read the Belgariad already, yes, the Mallorean is pretty good (if you didn't like the Belgariad, the Mallorean is no different). I also like his other series, the Elenium and Tamuli. Everything he's written since is really terrible. --[[User:Xstryker|Xstryker]] 08:19, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
 
**Yeah, I liked the belgariad pretty alright. I was just afraid that the mallorean was going to be a bunch of retarded "me too" crap, like the belgariad made money so let's write another one. I think I'll pick it up on the way hope, though I'm still not sure if I'm up to the walk through the bookstore. --[[User:JD|JD]] 15:09, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
 
**Yeah, I liked the belgariad pretty alright. I was just afraid that the mallorean was going to be a bunch of retarded "me too" crap, like the belgariad made money so let's write another one. I think I'll pick it up on the way hope, though I'm still not sure if I'm up to the walk through the bookstore. --[[User:JD|JD]] 15:09, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
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***They are similar, but I like a lot of the new characters, and Boundless Mallorea makes for an interesting setting. Sometimes I prefer the Elenium/Tamuli to the Belgariad/Malloreon because Sparhawk is a lot more badass of a protagonist than Garion. --[[User:Xstryker|Xstryker]] 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)

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"Stalinist"? Is that in reference to Travis being the Stalin of Kupopolis? --Scen 10:34, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

  • No, I'm comparing the government to Russia under Josef Stalin. People talk about communism as if all communist governments are the same or that the Soviet Union defines what communism is. The Soviet Union under Stalin was kind of a hybrid of communism and fascism. In some ways, fascism is more a style of government than a type of government - carry any government to its militaristic, violent, jingoistic extreme, and you have fascism. The FTSR is more like the Soviet Union under Gorbechev, where the KGB is still following you around, but the government isn't slaughtering its own people. I have a post planned that sort of clarifies this a bit, if I get around to it. Basically, the idea is that the Viper District has a centrally planned economy that is focused on feeding the Viperese war machine rather than Viperese workers - it's mechanistic communism without any of its goals or principles other than glorification of the state. --Xstryker 08:33, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
    • So would someone within the Kupop universe call the Viperese brand of communism "Stalinist"? --Scen 13:51, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
      • No, they wouldn't. That's why I wrote the article myself for real people to read, rather than having beloved Ticonderan historian Allaine Pretenderpants write it (with gusto!) for all the citizens of faraway Pretendia to read. But shhh, don't tell our characters, it would be like finding out Santa Claus is a big red lie. --Xstryker 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)
    • (I think his complaint is that "stalinist" is a "meta" term, like Mike comparing splatdonalds to mcdonalds in its entry. Or maybe I'm way off base. --JD 15:09, 12 October 2006 (CDT))
Is the x missile related to the x stryker --JD 13:10, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
  • Or as I call it, the X Em-Aye-Double-Sizzle. --Xstryker 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)
ive been to rock lobster i like there crablegs --Scen 13:24, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
ok ill try them sometimes
hey guys is the mallorean any good? I'm thinking of reading it, but my back is killing me and it hurts to move, so I'm not sure the walk through the book store is worth it. --JD 17:38, 11 October 2006 (CDT)
  • Assuming you've read the Belgariad already, yes, the Mallorean is pretty good (if you didn't like the Belgariad, the Mallorean is no different). I also like his other series, the Elenium and Tamuli. Everything he's written since is really terrible. --Xstryker 08:19, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
    • Yeah, I liked the belgariad pretty alright. I was just afraid that the mallorean was going to be a bunch of retarded "me too" crap, like the belgariad made money so let's write another one. I think I'll pick it up on the way hope, though I'm still not sure if I'm up to the walk through the bookstore. --JD 15:09, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
      • They are similar, but I like a lot of the new characters, and Boundless Mallorea makes for an interesting setting. Sometimes I prefer the Elenium/Tamuli to the Belgariad/Malloreon because Sparhawk is a lot more badass of a protagonist than Garion. --Xstryker 07:47, 13 October 2006 (CDT)